Is the Jezreel Valley the Stage for the Final Battle?

It’s been called the “heart” of the promised land—a 141-square-mile triangle in the north-central area of Israel.

Today, the Jezreel Valley is Israel’s breadbasket. A beautiful plain of fertile fields and winding roads, it’s hemmed in by rolling mountains that offer stunning scenic views.

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But its modern-day beauty hides a bloody and violent history.

Here Jezreel’s rulers killed Ahab’s 70 sons, put their heads in baskets, and brought them to Jehu (2 Kings 10:1–11). Queen Jezebel murdered Naboth in his own vineyard in Jezreel (1 Kings 21:1–23) and later died after being thrown from a palace and devoured by dogs. Pharaoh Neco killed King Josiah in the Jezreel Valley (2 Kings 23:30).

No less than 34 battles have occurred in or around this area.1 It was here that:

  • Deborah and Barak trounced Sisera at the base of Mount Tabor at the eastern end of the valley (Judges 4–5)
  • The Philistines attacked and defeated the Israelites on Mount Gilboa on the valley’s southeastern side (1 Samuel 29:1; 31)
  • Gideon defeated the Midianites, Amalekites, and their allies from the east just north of Mount Gilboa (Judges 6–7)
  • The Crusaders fought four separate battles in the twelfth century
  • Napoleon Bonaparte crushed the Ottomans in 1799
  • General George Allenby fought the Ottoman army for control of the area in 1918

For millennia, it’s been like a magnet wooing the nations to war—and for good reason.

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Mount Tabor from the Nazareth ridge

The ‘grand central station’ of Israel

No one traveling north to south or east to west could avoid passing through the Jezreel Valley. It was the main connecting point between the nations, like a giant “X” in the middle of Israel—a grand central station of sorts.

And because it guarded the easiest route to the Fertile Crescent, whoever controlled the Jezreel Valley controlled travel and trade (ie., taxes).2

This flat valley and unique and strategic location—combined with two natural water sources—turned this land into the most contested piece of real estate in antiquity.

Perhaps this is why Napoleon called the Jezreel Valley the most natural battleground of the whole earth.3

Where the end begins

The Jezreel Valley tells a sobering story of past rulers and wars, but it’s a future battle mentioned in Revelation 16 that grabs many people’s attention.

In it, the evil rulers of the world will gather to come against the King of kings—and the apostle John says it’s to a specific place:

For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty. . . . And they assembled them at the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon. (Revelation 16:14–16, emphasis added)

Though the entertainment industry has popularized the word “Armageddon,” it doesn’t refer to the end of the world. Its Greek name, Harmagedon (Ἁρμαγεδών, Harmagedōn) “appears to be a conflation of the Hebrew word for ‘mountain’ . . . and the name Megiddo (מגדו), yielding a translation like ‘mountain of Megiddo.’”4

Interestingly, back in 1903 archaeologists started excavating a “tel” in the Jezreel Valley (one ancient civilization built upon another) and identified it as the ancient Canaanite city of Megiddo, mentioned twelve times in the Old Testament.

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The excavation site of the ancient Canaanite city of Megiddo, overlooking the Jezreel Valley

Nations that controlled the Jezreel Valley controlled Megiddo; from there, they could keep a watchful eye on all traffic within the valley.

But was John referring to the city of Megiddo in the Jezreel Valley in Revelation 16:16?

Maybe.

Some interpreters hold that John, drawing on Megiddo’s reputation as a battleground, envisaged the whole plain of Megiddo in the greater Jezreel Valley as the site of the world’s final, epic battle.

Others argue “tel Megiddo” is not a mountain, but merely a “tel,” or ancient city. And because the word “Armageddon” in Revelation refers to a mountain, John can’t be referring to the ancient city of Megiddo. Therefore, the Jezreel Valley is not the future gathering place of “the kings of the whole world” (Rev 16:14).5

Still others deny that either place could be the site, as it would not be in keeping with the eschatological outlook of the Hebrew Bible, in which Jerusalem is always the scene of the final battle between God and his enemies (see Psa 48:1–8; Isa 24:21–23; 29:1–8; Joel 3:1–16; Mic 1:11–13; Zeph 3:8; Zech 12:1–9; 14:1–5).6

And some believe “Mount Megiddo” in Revelation 16:16 is merely symbolic of the power of Rome to seduce nations.7

Regardless, John offers his vision of a final war on “the great day of the Lord Almighty” to persecuted Christians then—and to us now—as a word of comfort and hope that evil will never win but is doomed to ultimate destruction.8

And wherever that battle is, it will be the greatest showdown in history.

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Understanding the geography of Israel enhances our understanding of the narrative of the Bible.

For more information on the geographical, cultural, and historical settings in the Bible, I recommend The New Moody Atlas of the Bible and the award-winning Lexham Geographic Commentary on the Gospels.

To learn more about the end times, check out Dayton Hartman’s book Jesus Wins: The Good News of the End Times.

Have you been to the Jezreel Valley and Megiddo or studied this area of Israel? Comment in the post!

 

Karen Engle received her MA in Biblical Studies and Theology from Western Seminary. She is an editor for Faithlife and regularly takes groups to Israel.

  1. Cline, Eric H. The Battles of Armageddon: Megiddo and the Jezreel Valley from the Bronze Age to the Nuclear Age, University of Michigan Press, 2002, p. 11
  2. Cline, Eric H. “Contested Peripheries” in World Systems Theory: Megiddo and the Jezreel Valley as a Test Case,” p. 9, file:///Users/karen.engle/Downloads/233-318-1-PB.pdf. Accessed 2019 March 22.
  3. Rhodes, Ron. Bible Prophecy Answer Book, “The Campaign of Armageddon,” Harvest House Publishers, 2017.
  4. Barry, John D. Lexham Bible Dictionary, “Megiddo and ‘Armageddon,'” Lexham Press, Bellingham, WA, 2016.
  5. Ibid.
  6. Ibid.
  7. Elwell, Walter A. Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology, “Armageddon,” Baker Academic, 2001.
  8. Ibid.

Comments

  1. Joseph W Luna says:

    Some other people, like me, believe that Jesus redeemed the entire world at the cross, including old covenant Israel, who for the most part rejected the gospel, rejected redemption and refused to come to the Savior by faith.

    Since there are no promises about the land in the NT and no promises to physical Israel after its complete dismissal in A.D. 70, I have no reason to believe that they will have “special salvation” at the end of time.

    So, having said that, the land of Israel as we know it today holds no special promises in the word of God, not now, not in the future.

    Only the ones that are part the body of Messiah, who are washed in His blood, who are being sanctified by His Spirit and graced with the gift of eternal life are the only ones who will inherit the earth.

    • Replying to Joseph Luna:
      1. The New Testament’s Book of Revelation refers to physical city of Jerusalem and Mount Zion (chapter’s 11 and 14).
      2. The 12 tribes of Israel are also referenced as being active in the Lord’s service (chapter’s 7 & 14).
      3. Your suggestion that Israel has been completely dismissed does damage to the trustworthiness of God Himself.
      In Isaiah 45:17 God commits to Israel’s “everlasting salvation… forever and ever”. He puts that promise in the the greater context of the faithfulness of His Word.
      If it were in the nature of God to dismiss or set aside His “forever” covenant pledge to the House of Judah and the House of Israel (Jeremiah 31:31-37), then what’s to say that He might not also at a later time dismiss His covenantal commitment to the New Testament believers to give them eternal life?

      • Joseph W Luna says:

        Mike: Let’s get to the point here. Where do we find in the book of Revelation that this book was written for a time that exceeds our own? if we are going to be precise about what God has done and accomplished through Jesus Christ, we should also be precise in understanding that the book of Revelation gives us no indication that it was written for a far future. Look for it, you will find it nowhere.

        On top of that, would you be willing to tell us why God inspired a book that has been irrelevant for the last 2,000 years since it doesn’t apply to any of the generations that have come and gone, including ours… and perhaps a few more?

        One thing that is clear to me is that the western church assumes too many things that are not biblical (a Millennium, a 7th-year tribulation (or 3 1/2, take your pick, a rapture, or an emptying out of all believers before things get really bad, etc.

        Of course, I could easily demonstrate that what Jesus accomplished on the cross was the last lap of God’s eternal plan for all humanity. Gen. 3:15 was fulfilled at the cross, therefore everything else that happened afterward, including the raising up of Israel was part of that plan.

        God the Father chose God the Son to create (Jn 1:2-3; Col. 1:16), to redeem and to reign over His own creation. Israel, therefore, was chosen as a part of that plan but not as the whole. God gave them a land in order to build His house on the foundation of His Son, not to cater to them.

        Besides that, the promises of God were made to a people of faith not to a physical nation that for the most part rejected Him from the very beginning.

        If we look carefully, we will discover that when Jesus came into the land, they were already in a state of panic (Mat. 2:3) which turned out to be a massive rejection of their own Messiah because they had been expecting a political deliverer, not a bearer of absolute truth and a destroyer of the works of the devil (Jn 18:37; 1Jn. 3:8).

        In time, Jesus charged the leaders of the nation and the people who for the most part did not want Him with sins they had never directly committed but were made responsible for.

        So from the beginning of time, the murder of Abel, and the murder of the prophet Zechariah were charged to that particular generation because the greatest revelation that Israel had up to that moment was that the God of Israel was walking among them in order to bring them to the last stage of God’s eternal plan which was the gift of eternal life, yet they refused. So, not only they killed Him, but also went on to persecute the Lord’s little lambs that had believed in Him (Acts 9:4).

        Please take a look carefully at Mat 23:33-38 and then 1Thes. 2:14-16 to have a better understanding of what I’m saying.

        Lastly, we must consider that Jesus is the end of Israel and the beginning of a new Israel of faith that encompasses all nations, all cultures, all languages, and all races despite their social statutes. The proof is right in front of our eyes. Believers in Christ are practically found everywhere in the world.

        Let me finish by saying that after the cross and the ascension of the Lord to the throne of God, there was no longer the need for a physical nation to continue carrying a promise that they had already given birth to.

        • Joseph you didn’t really answer directly any of the points I made in my response to you above. However, I will answer briefly some of the points that you have made in your response to me.

          “Mike: Let’s get to the point here. Where do we find in the book of Revelation that this book was written for a time that exceeds our own? if we are going to be precise about what God has done and accomplished through Jesus Christ, we should also be precise in understanding that the book of Revelation gives us no indication that it was written for a far future. Look for it, you will find it nowhere.”

          How many prophecies in the OT state that they were written for a time in the far future? But they were written many hundreds and even thousands of years before fulfillment.
          Most prophecies do not date themselves other than perhaps a very few in the Book of Daniel & Jeremiah.
          For example Isaiah’s prophecies about the Messiah… do not say that He will come in 750 years.
          So your point stating that Revelation not stating that is was designed for a far future time has no bearing according to the normative pattern of Biblical prophecy.

          “On top of that, would you be willing to tell us why God inspired a book that has been irrelevant for the last 2,000 years since it doesn’t apply to any of the generations that have come and gone, including ours… and perhaps a few more?”

          All scripture is profitable for every generation. (2 Timothy 3:16 NKJV) 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, [including the book of Revelation, I might add].
          Even the angels looked expectantly for the fulfilling of God’s prophetic purpose. (1 Peter 1:10-12 (NKJV)) 10Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, 11searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 12To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things which angels desire to look into.
          Why is then the book of Revelation, a book that is prophetic in nature, any different than the books written by other prophets (especially Isaiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah and Daniel) which tell of a future Israel in which the Messiah reigns). Reading Bible prophecy should awaken interest and desire in hearts and minds of God’s people.

          “One thing that is clear to me is that the western church assumes too many things that are not biblical (a Millennium, a 7th-year tribulation (or 3 1/2, take your pick, a rapture, or an emptying out of all believers before things get really bad, etc.”

          Have you read Revelation chapter 20 because it lists “a thousand year” time period 6 times. Daniel’s 70th week (Daniel 9:24-27), the listing of 3&1/2 year period [which also computes out to 42 months or 1260 days] in Revelation 12:2, 12:6,14, 13:5; & Daniel 7:25, 9:26, 12:7)
          Of course, I could easily demonstrate that what Jesus accomplished on the cross was the last lap of God’s eternal plan for all humanity. Gen. 3:15 was fulfilled at the cross, therefore everything else that happened afterward, including the raising up of Israel was part of that plan.
          Not sure what you are trying to say there? Absolutely God raising up Israel with a Messiah sitting on the throne of David is part of God’s plan of salvation. The cross is not the end of God’s purpose… but the beginning of a new stage in God’s eternal purpose.

          “God the Father chose God the Son to create (Jn 1:2-3; Col. 1:16), to redeem and to reign over His own creation. Israel, therefore, was chosen as a part of that plan but not as the whole. God gave them a land in order to build His house on the foundation of His Son, not to cater to them.”

          There a difference between catering to a group of people and fulfilling your promise to that same group of people.
          Besides that, the promises of God were made to a people of faith not to a physical nation that for the most part rejected Him from the very beginning.
          A generation died in the wilderness because of their unbelief but God did not abandon his promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but brought a future generation in. Has God changed His nature?

          “If we look carefully, we will discover that when Jesus came into the land, they were already in a state of panic (Mat. 2:3) which turned out to be a massive rejection of their own Messiah because they had been expecting a political deliverer, not a bearer of absolute truth and a destroyer of the works of the devil (Jn 18:37; 1Jn. 3:8).”

          No question a good percentage of Jewish people rejected Jesus… but not all. Romans 11 informs us that Israel’s rejection is not total and not final. Also, Zechariah 12:10 tells that they will look upon the one they pierced and grieve.

          “In time, Jesus charged the leaders of the nation and the people who for the most part did not want Him with sins they had never directly committed but were made responsible for.
          So from the beginning of time, the murder of Abel, and the murder of the prophet Zechariah were charged to that particular generation because the greatest revelation that Israel had up to that moment was that the God of Israel was walking among them in order to bring them to the last stage of God’s eternal plan which was the gift of eternal life, yet they refused. So, not only they killed Him, but also went on to persecute the Lord’s little lambs that had believed in Him (Acts 9:4).”

          Yes I agree they fell under God’s judgment but Romans 11 tells of future mercy for them.
          (Romans 11:26–32 NKJV) 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.” 28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.

          “Please take a look carefully at Mat 23:33-38 and then 1Thes. 2:14-16 to have a better understanding of what I’m saying.”

          No question there… it is a biblical and historical fact.

          “Lastly, we must consider that Jesus is the end of Israel and the beginning of a new Israel of faith that encompasses all nations, all cultures, all languages, and all races despite their social statutes. The proof is right in front of our eyes. Believers in Christ are practically found everywhere in the world.”

          Your first sentence there says things that the Bible does not say and you draw an unscriptural conclusion. No doubt, however that the church is made up of people from every tribe and nation.

          “Let me finish by saying that after the cross and the ascension of the Lord to the throne of God, there was no longer the need for a physical nation to continue carrying a promise that they had already given birth to.”

          Other than that God has promised previously many times to visit Israel in the land. Those promises find fulfillment through Jesus Christ at His return. You can count on Him faithfully fulfilling all of God’s promises!

      • Joseph W Luna says:

        Hi Mike:
        Sorry if I missed your questions. My response to you is below,

        1. The New Testament’s Book of Revelation refers to physical city of Jerusalem and Mount Zion (chapter’s 11 and 14).

        Answer:
        1. The book of Revelation is the revelation of Jesus Christ as the supreme Lord over all the power of darkness and as the avenger of His persecute people (Rev. 1:1; 6:9-11)

        2. The 12 tribes of Israel are also referenced as being active in the Lord’s service (chapter’s 7 & 14).

        Answer:
        2. The 12 tribes symbolize the body of Christ. Dan is omitted and Levi is included, Joseph is included instead of his son Ephraim. Judah appears first instead of Reuben. the promotion of tribes descended from concubines Bilhah and Zilpah (Gad, Asher, Naphtali) over the sons of Leah and Rachel suggests that those once excluded from privilege are now included.
        The number 12,000 reappears in the dimensions of the new Jerusalem (Rev. 21:16). Indeed, the number 144,000 (12 × 12 × 1,000) suggests symbolism here, [but it also reveals that “Israel” symbolizes the entire body of Christ from the Old Covenant and the New.]

        3. Your suggestion that Israel has been completely dismissed does damage to the trustworthiness of God Himself.

        3. Answer:
        God’s promises to Israel were fulfilled in Christ. He gave Himself to them, but they rejected one last time. This means that God extracted His new Israel from the people who believed in the Lord. Later on, Gentiles joined the body of Christ made out of only Jews in order to complete the New Israel of God that continues to expand today to all the nations of the world (Acts 1:8).

        In Isaiah 45:17 God commits to Israel’s “everlasting salvation… forever and ever”. He puts that promise in the greater context of the faithfulness of His Word.

        Answer:
        The Israel of God is not the physical nation of Israel but a people of faith that would in time be chosen in Christ (Eph. 1:4; Rom. 9:6. Gal. 3:8-9)

        You: If it were in the nature of God to dismiss or set aside His “forever” covenant pledge to the House of Judah and the House of Israel (Jeremiah 31:31-37), then what’s to say that He might
        not also at a later time dismiss His covenantal commitment to the New Testament believers to give them eternal life?

        Answer:
        God never chooses people without faith, who continue to reject His Son. The truth of the matter is that God did not dismiss Israel. Israel dismissed God (Mat. 11:21-34; 23:35-38, Mark 12:1-12).

        The true Israel of God will always be those who believe in their Messiah. Take the Lord out of the picture and you got a political nation that has no hope unless its inhabitants come to Christ one by one.

        Thirty thousand Jews believe in Christ in Israel alone. About four hundred thousand Jews scattered all over the world believe in the Lord also. It is my take that the true Israel will always be a people of faith in the Lord. He who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to Him (Ro. 8:9).

        Thanks for reading my reply.

    • Elisabeth Schmidt says:

      Respectfully, if the promises to Israel are no longer valid, like the promises of land (that God promised to Israel as an eternal/forever possession, Genesis 12:1-7, 13:15, and chapter 15), that means that God is not a covenant-keeping God. If this is so, then he is not a faithful God. If THIS is so, how to we know he will keep his promises to us?

      “For all the land that you see I will give to you and to your offspring forever.” Genesis 13:15

      • Eugene Henson says:

        Elizabeth,

        God fulfilled His promise to Israel regarding the land…

        So the LORD gave Israel all the land which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they possessed it and lived in it. And the LORD gave them rest on every side, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers, and no one of all their enemies stood before them; the LORD gave all their enemies into their hand. Not one of the good promises which the LORD had made to the house of Israel failed; all came to pass. (Joshua 21:43-45)

        Now behold, today I am going the way of all the earth, and you know in all your hearts and in all your souls that not one word of all the good words which the LORD your God spoke concerning you has failed; all have been fulfilled for you, not one of them has failed. “It shall come about that just as all the good words which the LORD your God spoke to you have come upon you, so the LORD will bring upon you all the threats, until He has destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God has given you. “When you transgress the covenant of the LORD your God, which He commanded you, and go and serve other gods and bow down to them, then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and you will perish quickly from off the good land which He has given you.” (Joshua 23:14–16)

        So yes Elisabeth, God is a covenant keeping God. He already fulfilled His promise to Israel regarding the land. Unfortunately Israel was not faithful to God and He took the land from them as He also promised.

        ‘But if you do not obey Me and do not carry out all these commandments,
        if, instead, you reject My statutes, and if your soul abhors My ordinances so as not to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant,
        I, in turn, will do this to you: I will appoint over you a sudden terror, consumption and fever that will waste away the eyes and cause the soul to pine away; also, you will sow your seed uselessly, for your enemies will eat it up. ‘I will set My face against you so that you will be struck down before your enemies; and those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one is pursuing you. ‘If also after these things you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. ‘I will also break down your pride of power; I will also make your sky like iron and your earth like bronze. ‘Your strength will be spent uselessly, for your land will not yield its produce and the trees of the land will not yield their fruit.
        ‘If then, you aact with hostility against Me and are unwilling to obey Me, I will increase the plague on you seven times according to your sins.
        ‘I will let loose among you the beasts of the field, which will bereave you of your children and destroy your cattle and reduce your number so that your roads lie deserted. ‘And if by these things you are not turned to Me, but act with hostility against Me, then I will act with hostility against you; and I, even I, will strike you seven times for your sins. ‘I will also bring upon you a sword which will execute vengeance for the covenant; and when you gather together into your cities, I will send pestilence among you, so that you shall be delivered into enemy hands. ‘When I break your staff of bread, ten women will bake your bread in one oven, and they will bring back your bread in rationed amounts, so that you will eat and not be satisfied. ‘Yet if in spite of this you do not obey Me, but act with hostility against Me, then I will act with wrathful hostility against you, and I, even I, will punish you seven times for your sins. ‘Further, you will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters you will eat. ‘I then will destroy your high places, and cut down your incense altars, and heap your remains on the remains of your idols, for My soul shall abhor you. ‘I will lay waste your cities as well and will make your sanctuaries desolate, and I will not smell your soothing aromas. ‘I will make the land desolate so that your enemies who settle in it will be appalled over it. ‘You, however, I will scatter among the nations and will draw out a sword after you, as your land becomes desolate and your cities become waste. ‘Then the land will enjoy its sabbaths all the days of the desolation, while you are in your enemies’ land; then the land will rest and enjoy its sabbaths. ‘All the days of its desolation it will observe the rest which it did not observe on your sabbaths, while you were living on it. ‘As for those of you who may be left, I will also bring weakness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies. And the sound of a driven leaf will chase them, and even when no one is pursuing they will flee as though from the sword, and they will fall. ‘They will therefore stumble over each other as if running from the sword, although no one is pursuing; and you will have no strength to stand up before your enemies. ‘But you will perish among the nations, and your enemies’ land will consume you. ‘So those of you who may be left will rot away because of their iniquity in the lands of your enemies; and also because of the iniquities of their forefathers they will rot away with them. ‘If they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their forefathers, in their unfaithfulness which they committed against Me, and also in their acting with hostility against Me— I also was acting with hostility against them, to bring them into the land of their enemies—or if their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled so that they then make amends for their iniquity, then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and I will remember also My covenant with Isaac, and My covenant with Abraham as well, and I will remember the land. ‘For the land will be abandoned by them, and will make up for its sabbaths while it is made desolate without them. They, meanwhile, will be making amends for their iniquity, because they rejected My ordinances and their soul abhorred My statutes. ‘Yet in spite of this, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them, nor will I so abhor them as to destroy them, breaking My covenant with them; for I am the LORD their God. ‘But I will remember for them the covenant with their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God. I am the LORD.’ ” These are the statutes and ordinances and laws which the LORD established between Himself and the sons of Israel through Moses at Mount Sinai. (Le 26:14–46)

        This article by Karen Engle that started this discussion is about what she sees as a future battle written about in the Book of Revelation. Many people see the Book of Revelation as something that takes place in our future. That is a very popular view, but it is not the ONLY view. Many people like myself view most of the Book of Revelation as already being fulfilled. So this “future” battle in Megiddo that Ms.Engle writes about has already taken place.

        Take the passage above from Leviticus that I quoted. In it you will find four, seven-fold judgments on Israel if they disobey God. The Book of Revelation just happens to be about four, seven-fold judgements. They consist of: the seal judgments, the bowl judgments, the trumpet judgments, and the thunder/lightning judgments. These judgments came upon the Israelites in 70 AD with the destruction of the Temple and their city.

        Further, the Book of Revelation itself gives the time frame for the events contained within…
        The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John, who testified to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near.
        (Re 1:1–3)

        If you need further proof, then consider the words of Jesus in Matt 24:34…

        “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. (Mt 24:34)

        So again, God is a covenant keeping God. He always keeps His promises. We just need to make sure that understand what He has promised and be faithful and true to His word.

        Grace and peace to you.

      • Joseph W Luna says:

        Please show one single scripture in the NT where Jesus as the true God of Israel and as Israel’s redeemer promised them the land.

        You can search from Matthew to Revelation and you will not find a single scripture because the promise that God had made back in Gen. 3:15 had fully come and accomplished His eternal plan for Israel and the world.

        The fact that Israel as a whole rejected the Lord, does not nullify the promise that believers in Christ inherited them by faith. This includes thousands of Jews that left their sin and their world back in order to partake of God’s eternal promises.

        The same was then, the same it is today.

  2. Brenda A says:

    I completely agree with Mike and Elisabeth. If God does not keep His promises, what else do we have? What sets Him apart from all other gods?

  3. Gary M. Stevens says:

    I believe the discussion of God keeping promises is misguided. Of course, God keeps his promises. No one would deny that. The question is not whether he keeps them or not, but what did God promise and when did or is the promise to be fulfilled. Basic Dispensational interpretation claims the promises to Israel have not yet been fulfilled but will be in the future. However, Dispensationalism consists of a very small number of those who have worked on the questions for the past 2000 years. Therefore, the debate requires a deeper study and openness to all of Scripture being guided by those great pastors and teachers from the first century to today. And by the way, if this is done studiously, we all might discover that the questions we ask have not been universally concluded like those at the core of the faith. Future? The only thing we are sure of is that Christ was victorious on the cross, finished his work there, and the all the people of the world from the beginning to the day of his return will not only know it but will bow before him. The battle is over, the victory won.

    • Eugene Henson says:

      Dispensationalism started in the 1830’s. It started with John Nelson Darby of the Plymouth Brethren. It is not something that they have been studying for 2000 years, it hasn’t even been around for 200 years yet. Why did it take 1800 years to come up with Dispensationalism?

  4. Joseph W Luna says:

    Amen Gary. Thank you for your insightful response.