Logos 6: Wikipedia

Today’s post is from Morris Proctor, certified and authorized trainer for Logos Bible Software. Morris, who has trained thousands of Logos users at his two-day Camp Logos seminars, provides many training materials.

One of the most popular websites on the Internet is Wikipedia, which is a free, user-edited online encyclopedia. This storehouse of information continues to grow in popularity and accuracy. If you’re like me, you’re constantly checking it for quick facts about almost any subject under the sun, even while studying the Bible.

Logos’ software developers recognized Wikipedia’s widespread influence among users and therefore decided to bring the information from the site right into Logos itself. As a utility, Wikipedia can be opened directly from the tools menu:

  • Choose Tools | Wikipedia
  • Type a subject in the reference box (A)
  • Press the Enter key to generate the retrieval
  • Notice Logos searches the Wikipedia site for your article and places it within its own Logos panel (B)

morris-proctor-wikipedia-71.1 As a shortcut, open Wikipedia from the context menu within any resource or guide:

  • Right click a word within a resource (A) or a hyperlink in a guide (B)
  • Select your text selection (C)
  • Select Wikipedia (D)
  • Notice the Wikipedia article is generated automatically within its own panel

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For complete written instructions on all the new Logos 6 features, check out the Logos 6: What’s New? Manual or attend our in-depth Camp Logos in Tennessee.

Comments

  1. This is really a nice feature!
    It would be cool if this information could be copied straight into Logos (offline), so that I can makes notes and additions.

  2. Does Logos cross-reference a Wikipedia article with my Logos contents? I understand that this might be difficult short of Logos indexing Wikipedia in advance (!), but using Wikipedia as a launching pad for investigating deeper resources is a useful practice.

  3. Brandon Kinsey says

    Good to know thanks!

  4. Pete Vogel says

    When I purchased Logos 5 a little over a year ago, I figured that it would become a matter of ease to find answers, to research topics and do all the things I need/like to do. Well, this has been a far greater challenge than I could have possibly anticipated.

    It seems that whatever I do, if I’m successful in locating something, by the next time I want to go there, I can’t remember all the steps and clicks that got me there. I end up lost and confused and, if I don’t watch myself (excuse me – I meant allow God to watch over me), even frustrated. I’ve watched several of your training videos, and was able to duplicate the teaching, but a week or month later, I have to find the training again and start over; I don’t own the tools until I’ve had the chance to use them sufficiently to “own” them. Terminology is often also Greek to me (pun deliberately unintentional), and by the time I try to figure out where to turn next, I’ve accomplished my mission by other means.

    This December I had hoped to attend the training seminar in Phoenix, but discovered in the last moment that the teaching would be on Logos 6. Sorry, I can’t justify the cost for learning an upgrade that I don’t have (nor can afford).

    To date, if I want to search something out, I still find myself still using “blueletter bible.org and other websites to put things together. Nonetheless, I still have this dream, of one day discovering the secret of adapting your resource to my digitally challenged, digitally dyslexic being.

    I’m also reluctant to call on one of your friendly, well informed staff because I’ve got a hard time saying “no” to buying something else I truly can’t afford.

    If someone has a brilliant thought of how to assist this “challenged, dyslexic” mind, I promise not to get upset if you share.

    Pete Vogel

    p.s. By the way, I’ve never done this “Blog” thing and don’t really get it. E-mail has been my tool, the rest I never learned in school.

    • Steven Bell says

      Don’t get discouraged by the thought of upgrading to Logos 6. You can purchase a minimal cross-grade that gives you all the tools of Logos 6 without a major purchase of more resources. You can also purchase training manuals and a manual that tells you what specifically is different in Logos 6 from Logos 5. If you take the leap to Logos 6, trust me, you won’t be disappointed or broke.

    • Rick Brooks says

      Pete, I am with you. While I appreciate the capabilities of this software, it’s certainly hard for some of us to remember all the steps to complete a procedure when there are so many procedures. I am brand new with Logos 6 and have just started watching the training vids, but I could use some advice on how to remember these steps too. I am a 64 year old pastor and student working on my masters. I don’t really have a lot time to practice these exercises repeatedly. I need to spend most of my available study time preparing sermons and doing course work.

      Anyone know any tricks to speed up the Logos learning process?

    • Theophan Dort says

      Dear Pete,

      I’m no expert with Logos, and I don’t use it enough to make anything like full use of its power, but every time I use it I am astonished by how wonderful a tool it is, and how it makes studying the Bible easy and fun. I will “confess” to being a computer nerd, though, so learning new software probably is more comfortable for me than for many other more “normal” people. :)

      I think that you are in good company, in the sense that Logos is so powerful that it can be a bit intimidating until you’ve gotten a bit more familiar with it. I urge you not to give up, but to do two things that I hope will be helpful to you:

      First, just take some time and keep fooling around with it, exploring it, trying a few things. Don’t try to memorize steps, but explore the menus and just start getting your bearings, getting familiar with some things. I did just upgrade to Logos 6, but I’m pretty sure this is the same in Logos 5: Go to “Guides” in the top menu bar, and pick each one and fool around with it, just see what it does; get your bearings. For example, pick the Topic Guide, and enter some topics, and see what it gives you. Just take your time, explore, get a feel for it. A friend of mine just sent me an article claiming that “sin” was not about morality, but a state of being, and I found it fascinating, but I thought he was being too black-or-white about it, too either/or when it was both/and. I wound up searching for the general topic of “sin” in several different ways. The Topic Guide was one of them. You can also just enter a topic or a passage in the search box on the “home page.” Now go to Guides and try a different one, maybe the Exegetical Guide, or the Passage Guide. Just explore, try some things, see what they offer you. Instead of memorizing steps, just get a sense of what each of these tools does, what they offer you. Then select “Search” on the main menu bar, and notice the different types of searches you can do, and the different options in each of them. For example, I just searched, again, for “sin” in the Bible search, limited it to the Gospels, and then limited it to “words-of-Christ:sin” and got a search result that had every time Jesus Christ Himself used the word “sin.” I didn’t remember how to do that, didn’t remember the steps, but I went to Search, and Bible Search was one of the options it offered, so I selected that, and it offered me various options for search, and as I went through them, one of them was “words-of-Christ.” Again, what I’m trying to emphasize, here, is NOT memorizing complicated steps, but getting your bearings, exploring the options, one by one, and seeing what they do. Just fooling around and getting used to some things will help a lot more, I believe, than trying to learn specific series of steps to do something.

      Second, if you’re afraid that official Logos staff will try to talk you into buying something, try the forums, where many of the people replying to you will just be other Logos users like you. Go to the main Logos page and click on Support, and you’ll see one of the options will be “Forums,” and when you click on that, one of the options will be “Logos 5.”

      Please don’t give up! Just take your time, and not at a time when you feel pressed to get to something quickly. Take some time when you’re not in a rush, and just explore. And ask for help from fellow users on the Logos 5 forum. I think Logos 5 is a wonderful tool, and that you will come to love it if you just sort of get oriented to it, get a sense of its landscape, so to speak.

      Hope this helps,

      Theophan

  5. John H. Pavelko says

    Is this only available in Logos 6? I tried to find it in Logos 5 but could not.

    • David Bennett says

      I am fairly sure that it is only available in Logos 6. When I was using Logos 5 I was very new to Logos. I updated to Logos 6 and have been working with that. What I have been doing in learning new stuff is to write the method down on a pad sitting beside me. I then refer back to my notes until it becomes second nature to me. Every time I see something new I follow this method. I love Logos in that I am studying the Bible and can go as deep as suits my purposes to gain knowledge.

  6. “One of the most popular websites on the Internet is Wikipedia, which is a free, user-edited online encyclopedia. This storehouse of information continues to grow in popularity and accuracy.”

    I’m sorry… I rarely reply to these posts but when I saw the above description of Wikipedia, I cringed! A justified reaction? I realize everyone may not agree.

    Mr. Proctor’s description of the website as a “free, user-edited online encyclopedia,” could perhaps be the biggest criticism in one sentence! Who decides how accurate, let alone whether it “continues to grow in… accuracy”?

    • I have never found Wikipedia to hold false information. This may be due to my limited searches or lack of knowledge. I have also found some very useful information that I confirmed on other sites. This is in sharp contrast to illustrations that I have read in sermons. They have proven to be the embellished truth of a story that was changed to fit the preachers point.

      Bottom line, I look forward to upgrading to Logos6 so that I can use this tool but I will have to wait till I upgrade my computer to one with additional RAM video. 4G barely handles Logos5

  7. Is Logos not aware of the secular bias of wikipedia? The Wikipedia entry claims Bethlehem is a Palestinian city. I believe Bethlehem is actually in Israel. The first translation is into Arabic instead of Hebrew. I am fairly certain Hebrew predates Arabic. Why would they choose Wikipedia?

    • David Bennett says

      Hi Tim,
      Bethlehem is actually in the West Bank about 12 Km from Jerusalem so it is not in Israel.

  8. Matthew Hamrick says

    John, this is a new feature in Logos 6. It was not available in Logos 5.

  9. HI, I know what you mean about not remembering and using logos, I have been using it since the 90s and have a hard time learning how it works. I broke down and bought logos camp dvd set and Morris really helped explain how it works, I think it is the only way one will figure it out. I just got the second set and am looking forward to learning more. It does seem to bad to have the first set just sitting on my desk when someone could use it but it is a good investment.

  10. Nice feature!

  11. https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustin
    A link to Wikipedia from a personal book does not. Link for example. http://www.dendanskesalmebogonline.dk/ works well enough. (it looks up through my normal web brauser.
    There were no problems with Logos 5